Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt?

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NerzhDishual

Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « on: 2013-11-08, 21:48:32 »

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NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #1 on: 2013-11-08, 22:21:17 »
Group: Guest	Hi People, About: "Charging a capacitor without loss". Or, more precisely, with few loss, you can consult this simulation picture: The maths are On You. I'm too not self confident with these maths. For any explanation and equation, you can also consult: "DC RESONANT CHARGING CIRCUIT" http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html This is just the begining of the story. All the Best, Jean

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #2 on: 2013-11-08, 22:43:26 »
Group: Guest	One part of the story would be these 2 old web pages: « Last Edit: 2013-11-09, 01:06:06 by NerzhDishual »

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #3 on: 2013-11-08, 23:12:29 »
Group: Guest	Imo, this previous CCT can be interpreted as: Please forget the "Scalar wave controller" device. Think about any 555 or any 4093 (Quad 2-input NAND Schmitt trigger). No?

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #4 on: 2013-11-08, 23:40:19 »
Group: Guest	Now, charging 2 capacitors in parallel and discharging them in series could sound like a great idea. Unfortunately, the 'official maths' (and the experiments) are telling us that this does not generate any 'OU'. You bet it would not... Unless the 'load' in the previous circuit were inductive? Even is this case, according to the simulation, no 'OU' could be achieved... Unless ......? To be tested in the real life.... More to come ASAP, Jean

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #5 on: 2013-11-09, 00:59:46 »
Group: Guest	Unless Quote (from some vid) of some claimed 'OU' guy (who is banned on this forum): "....the 'COP' is on the battery. Does the battery went longer, does it take the charge better, does it charge faster? How long could we stay this battery? You're dealing with the COP in the system by charging a battery with this type of device. Because when I'm saying any COP is developed in the machine whatsoever it's all in the chemical,in the battery.." (From my froggy understanding). If this guy is right so "self charge" could be possible. IMO, there are 3 ways to charge a (lead acid) battery. 1) Brute force: some amps with a voltage charger > Voltage bat. 2) Huge voltage spikes with pratically no current. Often called "Radiant NRG". 3) Huge current spikes (from capacitor(s) discharge). We are dealing with the 3th method. « Last Edit: 2013-11-09, 03:03:54 by NerzhDishual »

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Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #6 on: 2013-11-09, 01:29:54 »

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Thanks, ND... studying what you have provided. Great to hear from Brest again!

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #7 on: 2013-11-09, 01:53:35 »
Group: Guest	Now, just for the fun, this circuit: Obviously a not functioning and obfuscated CCT. In French: a "Foutage de gueulle" (piss-take) ; It can be modified for functioning but it is always the same thing: charging 2 capacitors in paralell and discharging them in series. No way! IMO. Gwella gourhemennou a-berz Jean

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #8 on: 2013-11-09, 02:45:52 »
Group: Guest	Hi Prof J. Great also to see that you are, as usual, very re/active.... ))) You do not need to (too) "study" anything. Actually, you lose (almost) no energy when you charge capacitors via an inductor. This is not 'OU'. But, if the battery is OK to receive huge (but very short) amps? In my great laziness, I have not yet tested this very simple CCT: Perhaps, one could design a 'near' self charging cct with a small 9 volts bat and a 9/6 volts relay?

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Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #9 on: 2013-11-09, 07:59:08 »

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Quote from: NerzhDishual on 2013-11-09, 02:45:52

Hi Prof J.

Great also to see that you are, as usual, very re/active.... )))
You do not need to (too) "study" anything.
Actually, you lose (almost) no energy when you charge capacitors via an inductor.
This is not 'OU'.
But, if the battery is OK to receive huge (but very short) amps?

In my great laziness, I have not yet tested this very simple CCT:

Perhaps, one could design a 'near' self charging cct with a small 9 volts bat and a 9/6 volts relay?

Hi Jean and welcome

That last CCT is so much like one I use with an electrolysis cell, which can be found on another thread here, also using an inductor in a type LENR cell. I can tell you now that it works with the cells as the cells generate power. I have never tried without a cell though, all very interesting

Mike

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NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #10 on: 2013-11-10, 18:07:58 »
Group: Guest	Hi Mike! Thanks for your feedback. Very encouraging. Actually I have a lot of such Circuits. Most of them are just simulations but some are 'real' things. I do not 'get along' with MOSFETS, I have a tendency to blow them up. ( I will try relays. But relays consume power.... Another version of the previous CCT: A very simple CCT: Another less simple one: The last one, just designed, this very day: All The best, Jean

NerzhDishual	Re: Possibility of a Self Charge Device. Or Watt? « Reply #11 on: 2013-11-10, 18:58:28 »
Group: Guest	Hi People, IMO, actually, we have, at least, 3 solutions: Simple "Parametric" stuff: 1) Charging 2 caps in // and discharging them in series... A very old idea. Kinda "Tesla Switch". Claimed to be working by some people and useless for others. More elaborated "Parametric" stuff: 2) Charging 2 caps in // via a coil and discharging them in series... A less old idea. "Double Parametric" stuff, a more 'tortuous' idea: 3) You energize 2 coils while they are in the 'few Henries' configration. Then, you let them giving back their NRG to the two caps (in //) when these 2 coils are in the 'lot of Henries configutation'. In the attached picture: 0.45 mH versus 227 mH one. V = L.di/dt + i.dL/dt. No? The CCT is much more complicated indeed. But worth to be though about, IMO. NO? A real measurement of one of my bifilar coil: All the Best from Brest, Jean