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Allcanadian	The fourth state of free energy... plasma « on: 2021-04-08, 22:38:57 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	The work of Paulo & Alexandra Correa is the best and most comprehensive resource I have found to date... http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Centraflow	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #1 on: 2021-04-10, 07:56:00 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	Have you noticed it is all around the time of the TPU Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Chet K	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #2 on: 2021-04-10, 15:07:43 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Marco Had done a lot of work here on PAGD I wonder how he is doing these days ...will touch base . Thx Chet

Allcanadian	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #3 on: 2021-04-10, 19:16:46 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	Chernetskii the "self-generating discharge" http://www.rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm#:~:text=%22The%20self%2Dgenerating%20discharge%20(,to%20perform%20MOSTLY%20CYCLOID%20movements. --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Centraflow	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #4 on: 2021-04-11, 08:30:27 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	That was a nice read, thanks AC Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Allcanadian	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #5 on: 2021-04-11, 20:43:27 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	On Chernetskii's "self-generating discharge" It's kind of amazing that more people haven't connected the dots here, listen to Chernetskii... Quote An ionized gas that was 'supercharged' with high density magnetic flux seems to exhibit certain properties which Chernetskii claims to take advantage of. "The self-generating discharge (SGD) emerges when the discharge current reaches a definite critical density, when the magnetic fields they create ensure magnetisation of plasma electrons and they begin to perform MOSTLY CYCLOID movements. So we have a plasma stream and as the current increases Z-pinch causes a concentration of the parallel streams and cycloid movement. Now if I told anyone I have a device and when more current flows it does not dissipate but concentrates the energy increasing the energy density causing more motion they would never believe me. That would be like saying I have a spring and it takes X energy to compress it however when I release the spring it's own motion increases the material density producing more spring and the cycloid motion produces more turns, lol. It's kind of amazing that something can be known in the literature to spontaneously increase it's own energy density in supposed violation of our laws of Entropy and so many could think nothing of it. I mean, on the surface it appears to violate multiple laws for reasons even the scientific community say they cannot explain... but it's of no interest, lol. The only thing really amazing is that we can be given so many examples of self-generation and self-organization which is then promptly ignored by everyone. Regards AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

muDped	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #6 on: 2021-04-11, 21:44:57 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	The "cycloid movement" of accelerated electrons in response to a magnetic field is the "secret" of the Magnetron. In a well designed Magnetron or Amplitron peak pulse output powers of Megawatts are easily attainable. --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

Allcanadian	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #7 on: 2021-04-15, 20:12:45 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	From a post at OU.com on Edwin Gray's splitting the positive... I didn't know Gray had used this kind of black box configuration which sounds very similar to many other devices. Most inventors tend to distract from the actual process involved which is why many FE replicators only concentrating on his conversion tube failed to produce the results they wanted. The Benitez patents which "split the negative" describe what Gray was doing in much more detail and don't use a conversion tube which is not required. So FE researchers need to be aware that most patents are loaded with "red herring" attributes. Some include a black box or special conversion tube or special triode tube or multi-alloy valve or specific conductor lengths configured or wound in strange ways which is basically nonsense meant to distract. The actual process or effect is so simple it's almost comical and patented by Tesla in his radiant energy patent...US685958A, Method of utilizing radiant energy. Simply put, when a plate, tube or any object is placed near a spark gap producing a "Volt Arc Discharge" or VAD it produces the "photoelectric effect" on said object. So it's kind of like a poor man's solar cell without all the fancy materials, band gaps and such which we can manufacture for next to nothing. The hard UV and other radiation from the VAD strips the collector plate/tube of electrons utilizing the photoelectric effect to drive any load while also recharging it's source. The masters like Tesla, T.H.Moray and Chernetskii knew this well before gray, where do you think he got the idea from?... So we split the (+) or (-) from two sources to ensure our conduction energy is conserved while also producing a VAD or radiant event. Then we extract additional energy from the VAD or radiant event using the photoelectric effect to drive a load and also recharge our source. As many inventors claimed, even a child could understand it, because everything we really need to know can be found in any grade school science textbook. There lies the key, knowledge and understanding of how nature works or simply put ... science. As well I'm disclosing this technology because it's already obsolete and a VAD isn't actually required to produce the desired effects. Imagine that, this is basically a completely unknown area of science which is already obsolete. In fact, it became obsolete before it even got started... Regards AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Leedskalnin	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #8 on: 2021-04-29, 11:43:51 »
Newbie Posts: 28	Thanks for the info, But isn't BRUCE A. PERREAULT's work much more similar to Moray's work than Correa's?! http://technology.radioionics.com/ http://library.radioionics.com/ He used radioactive elements in his patent for much more faster Ion(Plasma) generation and colliding them to make Tesla Radiant effect in Nano-Scale and using its superposed effect on the outer cylinder. That is more or less(IMHO) the method Moray used. Correa's work IMO is effective but I think not much as effective as Bruce's in generating practical usable power. John Edit: Patent Attached ------------------------ US7800286.pdf (72.39 kB - downloaded 127 times.)

Allcanadian	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #9 on: 2021-04-29, 17:11:19 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	Leedskalnin Thanks for the link and I have been following Bruce's work for many years. Quote But isn't BRUCE A. PERREAULT's work much more similar to Moray's work than Correa's?! For some strange reason I have been able to learn a new perspective very different from most people. When I see a vacuum tube with a plasma effect within it I don't see something "created" but more so "illuminated" which was already present. Like turning on a flashlight in a dark room so we can now see it's contents. In this respect the work of Perreault, Moray, Correa and Tesla is very similar. So we could view a plasma as not something in itself but a condition, the excitation of something already present. A radioactive source emitting high energy particles can also excite a given volume of space. Think of it this way... all the energy we could ever want is already present right in front of us in every volume of space as wave like disturbances. Generating a plasma illuminates these waves in the same way bioluminescence can illuminate ocean waves as in the picture below. Once we and our devices can "see" these wave like disturbances then we can begin to learn how to interact with them. As such the plasma state in the devices in question were never an energy source only a means to interact with another form of energy already present. As Nikola Tesla described it, a means of attaching our devices to the wheelwork of nature. The concept isn't that difficult however we should understand that nature always acts indirectly unlike our present technology. Think of a plasma ion thruster, it excites a gas to a plasma state then ejects it like a rocket engine does. It's simply another primitive variation on a reaction mass, or throwing stuff in one direction to push us in the opposite direction. However if we wanted this concept to mimic nature we would create a charged cloud of particles, let the solar wind move the cloud and let it pull us along like a wake board kite. The process must always act indirectly like nature which becomes problematic for most people who can only think in terms of a direct cause and effect. Regards AC ------------------------ The fourth state of free energy... plasma bioluminescent waves.jpg (8.74 kB, 275x183 - viewed 377 times.) --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Centraflow	Re: The fourth state of free energy... plasma « Reply #10 on: 2022-04-03, 11:02:54 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2021-04-11, 20:43:27 On Chernetskii's "self-generating discharge" It's kind of amazing that more people haven't connected the dots here, listen to Chernetskii... So we have a plasma stream and as the current increases Z-pinch causes a concentration of the parallel streams and cycloid movement. Now if I told anyone I have a device and when more current flows it does not dissipate but concentrates the energy increasing the energy density causing more motion they would never believe me. That would be like saying I have a spring and it takes X energy to compress it however when I release the spring it's own motion increases the material density producing more spring and the cycloid motion produces more turns, lol. It's kind of amazing that something can be known in the literature to spontaneously increase it's own energy density in supposed violation of our laws of Entropy and so many could think nothing of it. I mean, on the surface it appears to violate multiple laws for reasons even the scientific community say they cannot explain... but it's of no interest, lol. The only thing really amazing is that we can be given so many examples of self-generation and self-organization which is then promptly ignored by everyone. Regards AC I thought I would reactive this topic, hope you do not mind AC. As I have stated the TPU uses plasma, but Steven Mark's first two TPUs did not use plasma. The first one was a "toy" in terms of it did not power anything, just showed a voltage output. The second one which was only seen once (I think because it was stolen), was able to power 2 X 60w 120v light bulbs at a voltage of 91v. Now, what relation do a moving magnetic field and a moving plasma have! Well, a plasma is like a supper conductor and can have a huge current running through it, and if that current was moving back and forth inside a coil there would be a magnetic field induced inside that coil. A moving magnet inside a coil does the same thing, so they both induce a current into the coil. The attached is a simple experiment that anyone can do, it is in fact half of the second TPU of SM, that unit had two, and worked with the use of magnets as shown, and an aluminum "loop" which creates the mirror field at the opposite end of the solenoid. The magnet has to be with both North and South fields on the same face (Halbach magnet). This I believe has something to do with what Itsu is working on atm. Regards Mike ------------------------ The fourth state of free energy... plasma Magnetic spring system.png (26.27 kB, 1495x1060 - viewed 282 times.) --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

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