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New Methods of Cummunication « on: 2014-12-04, 20:32:34 »

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I was reading this article today, as I have an earnest interest in communications since providers no longer offer those unlimited data plans, and the cost to send/receive data is ridiculous.

http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomars/hodomars.htm

Please post scalar detector article/schematics/notes if you have them.  I will be going back and digging up the old articles from eskimo.com and looking through those, as I recall a few on there.

http://www.rexresearch.com/hodorhys/hodomars.htm

(these are different links)

EDIT:
http://www.rexresearch.com/hodoindx.htm

Edit 2:
Video of detector circuit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IPeSUjT3yA

Notes on Scalar Detector Designs (pdf attached)

EDIT 3:
More files attached



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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #1 on: 2014-12-05, 20:18:38 »

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alternative circuits for the LM3909 IC (no longer made)
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #2 on: 2014-12-05, 20:26:12 »

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MPF102 is a JFET that is no longer available

I have some JFETS and will see if they aer compatible

I think the second one will work in its place, 2N5486
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #3 on: 2014-12-07, 04:16:24 »
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #4 on: 2014-12-07, 05:44:27 »

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Finished finals this week and 2 months before next semester!

Got a lot to do!

pouring over all the scalar and longitudinal wave stuff, I noticed a trend:

ANY sudden change of sufficient voltage will produce a scalar wave.  This is exactly as Telsa said in his RE patent, and many others have discovered: LED's, spark gaps, some tubes, moving objects, lightning, etc.

This scalar wave induces a flow of current (transfer of energy), which any detector that is sensitive enough will detect.

There seems to be some sort of resonance mode, that I don't understand.
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #5 on: 2014-12-07, 06:41:58 »
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Quote from: Grumpy on 2014-12-07, 05:44:27
Finished finals this week and 2 months before next semester!

Got a lot to do!

pouring over all the scalar and longitudinal wave stuff, I noticed a trend:

ANY sudden change of sufficient voltage will produce a scalar wave.  This is exactly as Telsa said in his RE patent, and many others have discovered: LED's, spark gaps, some tubes, moving objects, lightning, etc.

This scalar wave induces a flow of current (transfer of energy), which any detector that is sensitive enough will detect.

There seems to be some sort of resonance mode, that I don't understand.

Grumpy, I read those patents some time ago and just scanned them again but I see no mention of "Scalar Waves".

Could you please specify which patent, the page and line numbers where he states what you just said he states in an RE patent ?

One of these maybe ? But I don't see it stated.

http://www.google.com/patents/US685957

http://www.google.com/patents/US685958

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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #6 on: 2014-12-07, 15:09:34 »

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I retracted the statement.

I was referring to patent 685957, and several other sources in a quick statement.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #7 on: 2014-12-07, 23:31:03 »

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Looking over Hodowanek's GRav detectors and I can't make sense of his ASCII schematics:

Based on what he writes, these radar detector circuits are close, and he says that when shielded they detect only gravitational waves.  This is the same for scalar and longitudinal waves, depending on the terminology used, based on the research of others.

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components on order and some nice metal boxes too.

Joe Misiolek has a better detector than the one with the large magnet, but the images are missing and I cannot find them online anywhere.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #8 on: 2014-12-08, 04:18:20 »

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I reformatted this large doc from Joe Misiolek of the TVQ Group on Scalar Detectors.  It was over 60 pages and is now 35.  Some stuff from Jerry Decker and Bob Shannon to.

No schematics as they are lost to time...

This appears to be some early scalar work by the group.  I wonder what they are doing now.  A lot of this work talks about opposing field and cancelling fields.  The stuff on caduceus coils is interesting as this is the same as Wilbert Smith used, except Smith used a ferrite core.

Lots to do before parts arrive to narrow it all down to some ideas to try.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #9 on: 2014-12-08, 10:47:26 »
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Grumpy,
Whilst I was checking out the patents in your posts I bumped in to this.

I hope you find it useful.

Resonant transformer (Tesla inspired )

http://www.google.com/patents/US7940534
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #10 on: 2014-12-08, 14:32:15 »
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All,

A former member of this forum, tak22, did send me a link that has a very good download of Hodowanek's grav. detectors.
You can download the article here: https://archive.org/details/radio_electronics_1986-04

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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #11 on: 2014-12-08, 16:22:50 »

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Thanks guys!

Pulled the pages from that magazine to make them smaller.

Hodowanec's circuits are there so I can compare them to the alternates I found.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #12 on: 2014-12-08, 17:00:33 »

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Still looking at everything but the different types of detectors appear to be:

1. a charge sensitive device run in starvation mode as a sensitive switch
2. a magnet with a coil around or near it, the scalar field will modulate the magnetic field
3. semiconductor junction detectors - don't really understand these types, but sounds similar to "1" above

I have experimented a little with 1 and 2, so I know they work, but I was just messing around and not documenting anything.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #13 on: 2014-12-09, 00:43:48 »
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Grumpy,

I know of two detectors for emp pulses created by man or by nature. One is a ferrite core coil built
into a shielded metal box, the other is a electrolytic capacitor. Take a electrolytic capacitor, say 470uF 35V
and short the wires, this is your signal, the capacitor metal is your ground. Connect the capacitor to your
o-scope and set the voltage control to the most sensitive setting. Now study the o-scope for some time.
At random interval you will see a signal on the o-scope. Now connect the shielded ferrite core coil to
channel 2 on the o-scope. Look at the o-scope for some time, it may take a few minutes.

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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #14 on: 2014-12-09, 01:04:46 »

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Thank GL, I'll have to try that.

Attached is another detector that uses a 85A2 voltage reference tube.  I have 3 of these tubes, but never had time to try it out.  Supposed to be similar to a neon detector, and I think this tube is filed with neon. 
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #15 on: 2014-12-09, 01:37:11 »

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Ghost detector - another charge detector - claimed to be very very sensitive

UFO Detector (I think it will work in a box with a small magnet inside the pickup coil as a scalar wave detector.)

The plan is to be able to produce and detect pulses and then go from there.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #16 on: 2014-12-09, 07:54:46 »
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #17 on: 2014-12-09, 14:45:45 »

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Rota's detector rotates which requires slip rings.  I got the moving object detector from that pdf.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #18 on: 2014-12-10, 01:52:55 »

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Lewey Gilstrap's device.  curiously he talks about communications with scalar/longitudinal waves, but he drive his spherical antenna with sine waves.  In a letter to Bibhas De, Gilstrap said this device worked well, but that the project was cancelled by the US Navy.

Gilstrap receives with an FET and metal plate at the gate.

The RX oscillator has to stay lcked to the TX oscillator, phase locked loop not shown...

So, I believe he was using electrostatic waves as he says, but also that these may not be the same as scalar/longitudinal waves produced by positive pulses.  Curiously, Tesla coil scope traces that I have seen resemble choppy sine waves.  So, how did the unidirectional pulse become associated with Tesla and his transmitter?

My thoughts on modification of this to work with pulses:
Pulses probably will not work with the concentric spheres unless a switch is between them.  Then the device becomes more like the original induction coil used to generate Hertz's waves, and Elihu Thomson's charging effect, without the large induction coil.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #19 on: 2014-12-10, 15:46:41 »

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Prof Meyl has written a lot on scalar waves, see for example
 
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDQQFjAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpiers.org%2Fpiersproceedings%2Fdownload.php%3Ffile%3DcGllcnMyMDEyTW9zY293fDJQNF8wNjY0LnBkZnwxMjAzMTcwNzUxNDE%3D&ei=E2aIVOqbIonuUsqBAw&usg=AFQjCNEYACUzk-EyRca01F1OhJ-rJJSjXA&sig2=bQGRnpjPgeufBusgrRoHUQ&bvm=bv.81456516,d.d24

and

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEsQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkeychests.com%2Fmedia%2Fbigdisk%2Fpdfold%2F667.pdf&ei=E2aIVOqbIonuUsqBAw&usg=AFQjCNHAx8iefso0gEYxmXvAKO8RerC6Hw&sig2=PcvMY7xNAfEl9-HS2ICekQ&bvm=bv.81456516,d.d24

He demonstrated a small boat powered by 100% efficient scalar wave transmission of energy to the tune of 5 watts back in 2001.

Anyone who has used a grid-dip oscillator will know that resonance has the capability of sucking power when loosely coupled to a coil, and this is an important principle in scalar wave technology.  Somehow that resonance sucks power from the transmitter to the receiver. 

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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #20 on: 2014-12-10, 20:18:56 »
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #21 on: 2014-12-12, 03:44:19 »

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Thanks Wings!

I got all the stuff I ordered today, and can't wait to get started.

Starting with the opto-coupler, I see no schematic is included, but his instructions and the test circuit in the datasheet should work good.

The BIG TEST he says:

This device will operate for approximately 10 minutes before failing. You will notice
however that the IC will still function as an opto- isolator when placed into a
conventional circuit. It simply won't detect anymore.

According to Bill Beaty who built it:
After awhile it will vanish, and you cannot bring it back. If you disconnect the circuit for
a half an hour, the noise will not return. If you freeze it with cooling spray, it will not
return. But if you wait for hours (overnight,) the noise source will "refill" itself again.
Also, the harder you drive the LED, the faster the noise will vanish.

and that:
Robert Shannon tells me that if a whitenoise source is used to drive a bifilar coil and the
optoisolator is inserted, when the chip is placed back into the circuit the "noise source"
will have been "refilled" again without waiting hours for it to "refill" naturally. I've not
tried this experiment yet. If it works, it implies amazing things. Perhaps the
disappearing-noise effect from this optoisolator circuit can be used to receive the
unshieldable scalar radiation emitted from bifilar coils.


Speculating, the white noise seems to be some sort of scalar disorder that become ordered after some time when shielded from EM fields. Yet it can be re-randomized white scalar white noise.  Like a coherer that needs to be "thumped"... ;)
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #22 on: 2014-12-13, 17:17:57 »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC9-qfsjsjo

Tomasz Szostak in Poland(?) talks about Scalar Waves.

He predicts that if you cancel out all of the curled fields (i.e. magnetic) between the two plates of a capacitor, you will have a pure scalar wave remaining, and gives properties of these waves, equations, etc..

This coincides somewhat with both the bifilar-cancelling methods reported by many researchers, as well as with methods that use pulses so fast that the magnetic fields don't form.

Interesting for communications, but how do you implement this with a transmitter and receiver located very far from each other?  From all of the research I have looked at, the cancelling method is incorporated at the Tx.  The Rx is just a raised plate collector, or capacitor, or semiconductor junction - similar to a charge detector.
   
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Re: New Methods of Cummunication « Reply #23 on: 2014-12-14, 15:34:42 »

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If you haven't seen this before then it is a good explanation for Tesla's power transmitting system, and Prof Meyl's scalar wave systems.  Resonance is the key and it enables a receiver to reach out and influence the flow of energy from a distant transmitter so as to steer that energy towards it.

http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html

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