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Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « on: 2014-08-18, 13:22:36 »
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Hi All,

Working on a Tesla free energy experiment, I has so much of a hard time get this radio to work. It ended up of being weak signals due to the big hills in N Pa.

I'm in Allegany State Park, lots of tree that is blocking most signals.

This is my crystal radio late at night, due to weak signals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr6rxKBYAhQ

Tom
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #1 on: 2014-08-18, 17:56:47 »
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You don't show us your aerial. crystal sets need a huge aerial.
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #2 on: 2014-08-18, 19:05:34 »
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Hi Paul,

Yes I did, it's on this youtube video. Its about 300ft long and 40ft-50ft in height.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiniJtLwhvs

Tom
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #3 on: 2014-08-19, 13:29:22 »
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Quote from: Tommey Reed on 2014-08-18, 19:05:34
Hi Paul,

Yes I did, it's on this youtube video. Its about 300ft long and 40ft-50ft in height.

Good, and it is thoroughly insulated at the tree end, isn't it? Also, do you have a very good earth connection, maybe copper tubing hammered three foot into the ground? don't forget that water pies are sometimes no good because plumbers use plastic tubing.
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #4 on: 2014-08-19, 19:29:29 »
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Hi Paul,

Yes insulation is well done, I even put a brass rod 3ft in the ground.

I believe this winter is where the power starts to flow from the static charge in the air is alot when temperature reach below 32deg.

It's green and lots of trees, so I think water in the air has a lot to do with it.

Tom
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #5 on: 2014-08-20, 17:23:16 »
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Tommy,


While the grounding and antenna are incredibly important the detector can be the biggest loss of performance.

The problem is the forward voltage of the diode. The higher the forward voltage the stronger the signal must be before the diode will pass the signal.

This is why the venerable 1N34A was used for this purpose. It was of the germanium type with the low forward voltage of 0.3V.

Even when I used a regular old cat's whisker setup most of your time was spent locating the best point for connection having the lowest forward voltage.

My guess is that you could drop in a small signal diode and hear many more signals.
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #6 on: 2014-08-20, 20:12:57 »

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Speaking of Diode Losses;

Attached is one solution.

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Even when I used a regular old cat's whisker setup most of your time was spent locating the best point for connection having the lowest forward voltage.

Aye, those were indeed the days!  I used to order Galena or
Pyrites crystals, mounted in lead, from Allied Radio in Chicago
for 5 cents each.  Searching the crystal surface for sensitive
spots was almost magical.

We experimented with other materials too.  A favorite for
"emergency" radios was a piece of pencil lead and a Gillette Blue
Blade.  The blade worked with other "cat's whiskers" too like the
pointy end of a safety pin or even a small copper wire.
« Last Edit: 2014-08-21, 01:15:16 by muDped »


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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #7 on: 2014-08-21, 14:59:09 »
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Quote from: WaveWatcher on 2014-08-20, 17:23:16

While the grounding and antenna are incredibly important
If, at this time of year, the ground is dry, it might pay to remove the grounding  rod, pour water into the hole, and then hammer the rod back in again.

You might bear in mind Tesla's 685957 (Patrick's chapter 7):

http://pat2pdf.org/patents/pat685957.pdf

and his capacitor methods at 577671 since the capacitor may be more critical than we imagine.
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #8 on: 2014-08-21, 15:46:41 »
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Hi Paul,

Yes I agree, the diode does effect the strength of the signal.

I'm just being cheap, and wanted to do it in a cost effective way.

Tom O0
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #9 on: 2014-08-22, 15:02:53 »
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Quote from: Tommey Reed on 2014-08-21, 15:46:41
Hi Paul,

Yes I agree, the diode does effect the strength of the signal.

I'm sure diodes are important but the second Tesla patent, 577671, discloses an elaborate way of making improved capacitors. He must have reckoned that they were crucial too.

My question is: Are modern caps good enough not to need to bother with Tesla's rigmarole which was described in order to improve on the poor quality then available??
   
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Re: Simple Fox Hole Crystal Radio « Reply #10 on: 2014-08-22, 17:48:05 »
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Quote from: Paul-R on 2014-08-22, 15:02:53
My question is: Are modern caps good enough not to need to bother with Tesla's rigmarole which was described in order to improve on the poor quality then available??

It is clear that Tesla new his caps but the technology had already been pretty well developed before him, for his time.

Reading the patent, He covers most of the bases for good cap design. Modern cap design makes use of his 'rigmarole'. However, I have no doubt today's cap designs far exceed the earlier designs by a long shot for any application.
   
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