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Author Topic: Assembly of a simple reactor to run L.E.N.R. experiments  (Read 27768 times)
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@Ion, I'm quite aware that I have 240VAC available, but I like the challenge of trying to get the orange glow with 130VAC + FWBR.

@WW --
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I performed the same experiments back in 2006/2007. I found the majority of the contaminants and the lower grade orange glow were related to the water quality. I switched from tap water to demineralized water to avoid most of the orange glow until the degrading electrodes effected the water quality.
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Did you use 240V or 120V - how rectified?
   

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Frequency equals matter...


Buy me a drink
Just maybe the parameters used with certain materials in certain configurations are a creation environment,
The randomness is brought to focus in this vid:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29oXQHh-U4[/youtube]


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@Ion, I'm quite aware that I have 240VAC available, but I like the challenge of trying to get the orange glow with 130VAC + FWBR.

@WW --
Did you use 240V or 120V - how rectified?

120VAC > 1:1 isolation transformer > 0-150% variac > 1kV PIV 50A FWBR > 1000uF 400WVDC Aluminum electrolytic > probes

With the above setup the applied voltage could be adjusted up to ~210VDC but all the effects you would wish to see can be seen with ~100V, the correct water conductivity and minimal probe spacing.

tinman,

I found the current to fall because the forming gas bubbles added higher resistance to the water between the probes.



   
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Thanks, WW, very helpful.  
Can you tell me -- did you try to measure Pout?  by measuring heat rise in the water, or what?
   

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Another way to easily attain the higher DC
Voltage for the experiment is to make a
Voltage Doubler (two diodes and a capacitor)
operated from the 120 VAC line.


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For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.
   
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I did an experiment today.  A piece of paper is soaked wet in water.  I then tried to burn it with a blow torch.  It wouldn't scratch.  I think the temperature didn't pass water boiling point.  To see flame and explosion happens in these experiments indicate high localize temperature. 



   
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Thanks, WW, very helpful.  
Can you tell me -- did you try to measure Pout?  by measuring heat rise in the water, or what?

The best test I used was with the device in a Styrofoam cooler. The beaker had the probes and a separate heater element.

I compared delta T.

The heater element was more efficient.

My failure was probably due to lack of curiosity and money for platinum probes.
   
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We see that the two electrodes are dissimilar. I think that the geometry of an electrode is a keypoint for arcing.
Did someone make the Italian experiment or a similar experiment, using not a plate but a sharp anode (like the cathode) and a plate for the cathode? If so what color had the (possible) sparks?

   
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I did not know what L.E.N.R meant, and now I'm curious why it is classified as such  (i.e. Low Energy Nuclear Reaction )

what proof is there for the "nuclear" part?  anything concrete?

If not, I think its more appropriate to call it a High Energy Electro-Chemical Reaction experiment, or H.E.E.C.R  :D

EM

PS.  Also classifying something as "nuclear"  can be bad for business.  All sorts of government regulations can be invoked to suppress it!  Let's be smart about it.
« Last Edit: 2013-04-23, 05:28:03 by EMdevices »
   
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The thread title is this one of the video in question.
We don't even know if there is a "High Energy Reaction" of whatever kind.

   
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Well if we are splitting nuclei,then we are also getting radiation emission(beta gamma and alpha),as after the nuclear reaction the radiation is what stabilizes the reaction.If this is the case,then i !amongst others! are in big trouble-but I'm not yet glowing green like the hulk.
So now i might go and swap the polarity as EX suggested,and see what happen's.
   
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Google Ken Shoulders ,And spend a few minutes with the experiments and data.
you'll realise there are other even simpler  ways to evolve these anomalies.
He went thru the trouble of being very very informative on his work whilst writing his patents ,I am told he did this do to the encroaching federal suppression

  in the Vid that GK posted there are some valid reasons for replication  issues in this experiment {plasma] ,and "NOW" those issues appear to be understood much better.
however as the materials become degraded I am quite sure  some "incredible Hulk" moments do manifest.
 A lot has happened since the 1927 validation experiment we are playing with here [far from replication],a lot has been left out of the books we study
We had a man just north of my CT home running for president in the USA  a Dr.Greene he has a short Vid on the potentials of "plasma Batteries" I suppose the Colman Galespy falls into this category too.
 
We make all manner of sparks here however when things are arranged differently we can really have something quite special
Nothing whatsoever to do with scseudo science,and yes you would need to be able to collect data to really be affective during experiments [ readily available test instruments]

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« Last Edit: 2013-04-23, 12:54:21 by ramset »
   
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Well i tried swapping the polarity,and got nothing but bubble's-no fire.Maybe two probe's of equal size maybe better,and i will try this aswell.
Now a question for you all-what do you think would happen if we use a neo magnet as the cathode prob?.
   
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WW
Mentioned the high cost of platinum being a hindrance to his research,I have substituted Graphite in other applications.
However with your luck with exploding pencils ....
Make sure you have the camera going...... :D

But a magnet ,Interesting Too...??
thx
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If I were you I'd put on the rain coat this time......=:}
   
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Mentioned the high cost of platinum being a hindrance to his research,
thx
Chet

Chet-This is where my knowledge as a mechanic come's in handy.I have a very cheap solution for those that are looking for platinum or iridium.
But you will have to wait until my next video to see where you can get this platinum or iridium quite cheaply-in my case!free!,and it's high grade stuff aswell.

It never even crossed my mind until you mentioned platinum Chet-cheer's

Brad
   
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In this video,i show you a cheap iridium or platinum source.I also ran a temp rise test using our 100 watt hour limit.
Water volume-1.64 liters
Volume of glass-887g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO-7q-keIz8
   
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I may try this soon.  Still thinking on some safety issue and how to pump up sparking strength.  I know increasing voltage/current would do it, but if water act as circuit interrupter, then maybe some series inductance would do.


 
   
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  If anyone is interested in some of the early history of cold fusion and LENR, you may wish to look at this thread where I've linked to a written history and made comments:
http://www.overunity.com/13463/does-dr-steven-jones-still-post-here/#.UXlmk4IdJBo

   So my background over the decades is mostly experimental particle physics and especially fusion-related research.   I still feel that the "excess heat" claimed by P&F was NOT d-d fusion, and I urged them to not call it "FUSION" because there were not enough fusion products (by a huge factor).  If they had just called it "anomalous excess heat"... 

But please read the thread if you're interested; no need to repeat myself here.
   
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I had a 90V worth of batteries so I tried to make some fire in water.  It wasn't going.  Then I just tapped one electrode with aluminum foil, sometimes a fire ball come out and continue burning for a few seconds like fireworks.  I tried to burn aluminum with blow torch before it I guess it's not hot enough to sustain.  The excess heat could be electrode burning, but the max energy is no greater than equivalent used as galvanic battery in chemical sense.  Maybe it's not d-d fusion that gives excess heat, but possibility such as electrode nuclear is not too far fetched. 



   
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I found that burning aluminum may be similar to thermite.  I also found that it's about 2 USD for 1kg of aluminum.

Control thermite burning + thermoelectric + electric car may be cost effective. lol

I also read that gamma ray can cause fission and gamma ray can be man made with electron oscillation. lol 
   
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