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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #100 on: 2014-01-20, 09:55:49 »
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Hoppy I could equally say a battery cannot be charged with AC or pulsating DC. I might also add that a battery cannot be charged with reactive current … magnetic current, but each and every one of those things you see happening. If your convinced none of these things are actually happening and you really really want to believe the official dogma .. go ahead. I know Its otherwise because I've done it and seen it. That's a very different proposition to what you may or may not believe.
Doing things and pontificating are very different affairs. Here is a PM for instance off someone who built and tried the stupid one capacitor thing I suggested  .. instead of imagining

Thank You. Actually this very crude circuit seems to do good job. I like it very much and plan to add voltmeter and ammeter and maybe electronic protection circuit watching current output and voltage output. I like much the voltage slowly dropping from 30V now I have 18V and I expect real charging when it fall below 14V so that is very predictive way to desulphate battery.
My battery now sits on 11,5V while it was completely dead yesterday (0V).  

But of course Its not the does or doesn't it work that I'm interested in I know it works, (Its you who doesn't!)  Its holding that state of resonance. As for charging and discharging at the same time ..  its not ideal as I wrote above . But by no means impossible I can only assume you know very little of electrical systems and are not familiar with de coupling . Without going into to much detail and loosing you hopelessly de coupling separates an AC component from a DC component and can be as simple as a Capacitor which is indeed the case here . I'd love to go into some very basic electrical theory for you but It would take far to long

 

But just a very simplistic explanation , in the circuit above the 47 uf capacitor is effectively a DC block. Whilst the 100 uf capacitor in the emitter leg of the transistor (that's the one with the pointy arrow) removes the AC content . In order that the transistor remains what we call biased correctly.
You will see in this system there is both a DC block in the form of a capacitor allowing the AC through (at a resonant frequency in our case) whilst blocking DC, There is also a huge sink for the resonant signal in the form of the battery itself .
Its obviously quite a lot to grasp for someone obviously from a mechanical background , but of course its quite possible to charge with AC whilst using DC Its done all the time . Quite where you have got this impossible notion from I have no Idea. Anyway I guess everyone has to start somewhere I've had a good search around the WWW for some material that might introduce you to some very basic electrical theory whilst not taxing too much .This I think you'll find as good as anyfor a basic introduction . It covers most of the important aspects you really need to try and get a basic grasp of. It might take a few weeks to get up to speed but I'm sure you'll find it worthwhile in the end!

 http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/electricCircuits/AC/

enjoy .. kind regards  Duncan
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #101 on: 2014-01-20, 10:25:24 »
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Duncan,

If you carry on being disrespectful to people, you will end up speaking to yourself on this thread.  :(

Hoopy
   
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #102 on: 2014-01-20, 10:36:59 »
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well thats not very nice is it ? try to do some one a good turn! If you think pointing out a total lack of basic understanding and recommending some schooling to try and remedy the ignorance is .. 'disrespectful' you’ve got that very wrong .
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whilst we know little .. friends remember,
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #103 on: 2014-01-20, 13:01:49 »
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who can make the connection? your looking at the same circuit here ... I promise , can you join the dots ? its not at resonance .. but still

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJl0TO_aR6M&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]


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http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
whilst we know little .. friends remember,
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
D. Erasmus
   
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #104 on: 2014-01-20, 20:26:17 »
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Further to my earlier post, an adjustable LM338 voltage regulator set to output 16V would be a better choice for this charger conditioner. This will ensure that the battery is taken up to over 15V, which IMO is important with SLA's to ensure cell equalisation and therefore optimum condition.
   
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #105 on: 2014-01-20, 22:19:13 »
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Quote from: Hoppy on 2014-01-20, 20:26:17
Further to my earlier post, an adjustable LM338 voltage regulator set to output 16V would be a better choice for this charger conditioner. This will ensure that the battery is taken up to over 15V, which IMO is important with SLA's to ensure cell equalisation and therefore optimum condition.



Hoppy,

What kind of diode is the 1N4008? What diode can be used there instead of the 1N4008?

GL.
   
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #106 on: 2014-01-21, 09:22:45 »
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Joined by lots of Giants  … all because of a silly Christmas card!

Well boy's and girls I know a lot of you are having difficulty following my logic and It may seem an awful long way from this TPU of Steve Marks

 

 

Which is of course the envy and ambition of all in the Free energy world to this half finished abortion sitting on and old chair in a half finished extension. Awaiting more copper wire to be delivered!



(looking nice in pink don't you think ?) it may seem a long way, away from the Christmas card ambition of not so very long ago,

 

and It doesn't look like a toroid any more does it? Well It may not physically look like a toroid but magnetically I have Still got four separate cores and four separate air gaps. In other words  magnetically I have the same circuit .  The circuit boards you see are a variable oscillator driving an H bridge which can reverse the polarity applied to the four primary coils which I intend to be the four bottom coils consisting of 2500 turns on each leg.  The H bridge in practice can reverse polarity between a few Hz and Severn or eight  Khz
The top four coils of course will feed the load having reversed one set in order to reverse the lenz effect as I explained in the PDF
It will not have escaped your eagle eye that this is very close to Ed Leedskalnin's PM holder
x4 and I don't think it's an accident .
I actually scaled my number of windings off Ed's numbers in his book in the absence of any other information … Thank's Ed!
 You can see I hope that cores A,B,C and D remain unchanged, also the principle of operation remains unchanged , But Remember my ambition was always to explain how and why this system works .. and how very easy it will be to build your own . As soon as you grasp what I am doing and why I am doing it .
Fate has just handed me a huge bonus card in my struggle to explain what is happening ,another researcher unbeknown to me has utilised  the very same principles ! I was alerted to this work by this lone plea on energetics forum

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16528-looking-some-input-build.html

whilst I'm not sure what Rufus has in mind the Video had a huge impact on me , I hope it does on you in a very short while! I have made this still .. to try and explain

 

This machine by the way looks as much like my assembly, as my assembly does to Steve Mark's machine! (not much resemblance is there ?  ;D).Not to you perhaps but to my eye they are all identical .
The permanent magnets and the drive motor of this machine have been replaced by electromagnets driven by a variable frequency H bridge in my Christmas card to you guy's.
So of course the induced magnetism is much better and It 's relatively easy to find and run at resonance with the Christmas card I have drawn for you . A and B then are doing exactly the same job here as the cores A and B shown on the Christmas card and above as this concept takes shape.
Here is 2tuff2 giving a description of his investigation into the work of Anguswangus  and of course ... Ed

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJl0TO_aR6M&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

So guys does that join a few more dots up for you? There's Steve Mark , joined at the hip with Edward Leedskalnin, explained as best as I could on a Christmas card , another incarnation of it translated as best as I can and shown here demonstrated by 2tuff2 from work by Angus the wangus

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAnguswangus/videos?view=0
 

So perhaps the technical description of 2tuff2 isn't quite laboratory standard , never the less the result is exactly as I predicted .. lenz law can be reversed!




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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #107 on: 2014-01-21, 10:29:41 »
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Quote from: Groundloop on 2014-01-20, 22:19:13
Hoppy,

What kind of diode is the 1N4008? What diode can be used there instead of the 1N4008?

GL.

Hi Groundloop,

Apologies, this is wrongly labelled. It should read 1N5408. The 1N4008 is a high voltage diode that I used originally and later changed but forgot to update the schematic. I have re-posted a corrected schematic below.

An adjustable LM317 voltage regulator could also be used mounted on a large heat sink. R3 should be increased to 330R, so as to reduce maximum charging current to around 1.3A which is within the 1.5A maximum for the LM317. The value of R3 should be selected to limit the maximum current to within a safe level for the particular voltage regulator used.
   
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #108 on: 2014-01-21, 20:47:28 »
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Quote from: Hoppy on 2014-01-21, 10:29:41
Hi Groundloop,

Apologies, this is wrongly labelled. It should read 1N5408. The 1N4008 is a high voltage diode that I used originally and later changed but forgot to update the schematic. I have re-posted a corrected schematic below.

An adjustable LM317 voltage regulator could also be used mounted on a large heat sink. R3 should be increased to 330R, so as to reduce maximum charging current to around 1.3A which is within the 1.5A maximum for the LM317. The value of R3 should be selected to limit the maximum current to within a safe level for the particular voltage regulator used.

Hoppy,

Thanks. :-)

GL.
   
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #109 on: 2014-01-30, 09:46:51 »
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Well I have to report a disappointment or at least something I didn't expect.  C.C… I got so far .. I could transfer power at resonance across the Iron's which was in the plan and what you'd expect ! (Surprisingly the Iron can carry a sine wave well into the MHz without distortion) 
I had resonance set at about 8 Khz by measurment as soon I pushed  closer  towards series resonance  despite initially trying this with an H bridge rated at 8 amps and a PSU with current fold back set at 3 Amps . The H bridge chip was destroyed  almost instantly .. well 30 or 40 seconds anyway . The chip became so hot it actually un soldered itself from the board. I don't know quite what to make of that at the moment and am having some reflective time . I'm starting to consider a spark gap or vibrating contact .. there's certainly something out of the ordinary going on here but I don't have it nailed down .. yet.  onwards onwards


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whilst we know little .. friends remember,
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Re: Lets start the new year with a bang! « Reply #110 on: 2014-02-04, 02:21:01 »
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Off Topic Post? You decide....

I had a, lost to follow up, friend of mine (very good mathematician and latinist) who is very similar
physically appearance wise (two peas in a pod) with Eric P. $d.

Apparently, psychologically wise similar person too, as he likes to bewilder/perplex people with sibylline/crypic statements.

For ex:
EPD: ...it suffices to multiply by the square root of minus one.
My friend: In an ultametric space all triangles are isosceles or equilateral.

This kinda assertion poses you as a Very Intelligent Person. No?
IMHO, this is just a bl' f' big Ego driven childish behavio(u)r. No?

In the EPD vids, I would have been very pleased to listen:
Look people! What I will tell you can only be fully understood by persons who are aware of "complex numbers" calculus
(that is very simple indeed) and also of some basic 'transmission line' theoretical stuffs, not so complicated too
for slightly maths oriented persons.

So, the deal would had been clear...

Instead of that, EPD is asking kinda: "how many people are understanding what I'm saying"
10%? Apparent EPD Ego satisfaction...

This ain't f' fair at all!

I'm now 66YO. When I was about 27YO I used to be a 'teacher' for adult people and I would had been fired, should
I badly-behaved so. Only 10% of the audience? >>> fired!

Fed up with gurus...

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Fortunately, a couple of days ago, I stumbled upon a (1945) French book (about alternative stuffs) in my library that
BTW, quote Charles Proteus Steinmestz.
And, Lo and Behold, I'm beginning to understand few things...
But, as a Right Brain oriented person, maths are not my cup of tea.
Indeed not my cup of tea explained by Left Brained individual, of course.
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Pedagogy is what I do like and I dare to boast being a very efficient 'teacher'.
A good pedagogue/educationalist is, IMHO, a person that have experienced huge difficulties understanding stuffs.
Once he get the picture and should he (preferably) be Right Brained (so: creative) that he will finally be able to "instruct".
... And get back extensive "haha" from the audience.
I experienced this. This was really amazing and full of perceived gratitude.

This only works when the 'pedagogue' is modest and not showing-off.
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Hag va revr gant al laboused bihan!
Jean
   
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