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Author Topic: Clearing House For BS  (Read 2736 times)
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It's turtles all the way down
I ran across this and the second video thoroughly wrings out the BS of the first video.

First Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDy6QXyeyE

Second Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI

Dave does quite a good technician level analysis and debunk of Larsko and many others with similar claims.

We need a good clearing house for BS claims and a way to compel those with extraordinary claims to put up their proof or shut up and stop posting BS. (and wasting peoples time)

By the way I have tested this circuit on the bench and in LTSpice and there is no magic here, a level 101 engineering multivibrator circuit covered in most good engineering textbooks, despite the magic claims of Larsko et al.

There are nevertheless some interesting effects in other devices to be explored using sound scientific method and good measuring techniques.
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"Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy
   
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We need a good clearing house for BS claims and a way to compel those with extraordinary claims to put up their proof or shut up and stop posting BS. (and wasting peoples time)

There was a time when I made a lot of effort to help claimers understand what was really happening and that their discovery was just another iteration of of earlier claims.

I'm sorry to say that it has proven to be a wasted effort. You help one understand and even learn some basics and ten more pop up with the same 'never before discovered' idea.

I keep me eyes open in hopes something really new will pop up but it is hard to filter the noise.
   
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I keep me eyes open in hopes something really new will pop up but it is hard to filter the noise.

When one has been around forums for a long time, one gets good at pattern recognition e.g

The person claims they have a device that produces a COP>1, Overunity, or some other anomalous effect.

Believing people are basically honest , many try to replicate a very sketchy set of constantly changing instructions.

He never shows his device, but enjoys the role of teacher as he drops crumbs here and there with "try this or try that".

When the topic reaches about 10 pages, the subject has been changed, but the claimant is still branding all new thought as part of the original claim. At 100 or so pages everyone gets tired and the thread dies, the claimant moves to another forum to sell his idea.

An honest approach:

A person has an idea he would like to share with others. He has no proof but has some hunch or set of calculations that might lead to the OU goal. He shares completely his idea with all in the hopes that more hands or a good critique of his idea would be helpful.

As an example of an honest approach is this thread:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2751.msg45377;topicseen#msg45377

or this one:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2773.msg45380;topicseen#msg45380

Here no prior claims are made, just an idea or concept to test in the hope that we may discover something new.

People enjoy working on this type of idea because they are sharing in the discovery, there is no secrecy or holding back.
« Last Edit: 2015-02-20, 00:09:55 by ION »


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"Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy
   

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eh, If everyone lived by these principles then life would be good
   
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