OK, indeed! I agree that "many more independent checks" is very important.
If you wish for me to do an "independent check on the circuit", please let me know. I will probably use different measurement methods than you show, as a truly INDEPENDENT check.
Please let me know if I can be of service in your endeavors and research.
And a Merry Christmas season to you also, Lawrence. I suppose it should last all year!
--Steven J
For the next several days, I will be traveling with limited computer contact, but I will check email and this thread as I have opportunity to do so.
Dear Prof. Jones,
i am glad that you are willing to do an independent check. You are one of the few with one or even two Atten oscilloscopes. The independent confirmation for you is quite simple. The following are the requirements:
(1) Build a basic JT circuit with 1 inch toroid and approximately 30 turns. I am sure that you will not have any problem with that.
(2) Get a 2.3V 10F capacitor. If you have difficulty, I shall mail you one. The capacitor should be connected in parallel with the AA battery.
(3) Once you have the JT running with both the AA battery and capacitor connected, wait for about 30 seconds. Then disconnect the AA battery. The LED should remain ON for approximately 20 minutes. If you reach this step, you may have a prototype that can conclusively demonstrate overunity.
The next stage is a matter of adding two 1 ohm resistors for Input and Output current measurements.
(1) The detailed connection diagram is in the file nov 22a.xls in the reference material thread at my bench here. The connections shown are correct if you only have one oscilloscope. Use the attached diagram if you have 2 oscilloscopes.
(2) You need to watch out for the common ground internally connected within the Atten Oscilloscope. If you use two Atten Oscilloscopes (strongly recommended), make sure you
modify the diagram in nov 22a.xls carefully.
The two oscilloscopes need a common ground. See attached diagram. In particular, the Input Current Measurement would give you negative values. You need to invert it in the oscilloscope analysis.
(3) With the two oscilloscopes, one to measure Input and one to measure Output, you just need to use the Save function to capture the BMP and CSV files.
(4) If you use a breadboard, the length and position of the connecting wires will make some difference. You can play with them and watch the Input and Output waveforms. I use Ch1 for Voltage and display the Vpp and Vrms values. I use Ch2 for Current (voltage across the 1 ohm resistor) and display also the Vpp and Vrms values.
(5) If you have a DC power supply, you can vary the Input Voltage easily. Play with that and the connections until you detect that the Output waveform and displayed values are higher than Input.
(6) Save the BMP and CSV files. Use the CSV files to calculate the average Output and average Input Power. The ratio of Output Power over Input Power will give you the COP. Most likely, you will have COP > 1 if the above steps were followed correctly.
Some additional experiments include:
(1) Disconnect the battery and the capacitor will be the only visible component providing energy to the LEDs. Note the change in frequency (Output Voltage Frequency) as the LEDs start to get dimmer. Occasionally, the LEDs may suddenly brighten up for brief periods.
(2) Restart the experiment with the set up in step (1) and save the CSV files for both Input and Output at one minute intervals. You will find that the COP changes. Sometimes, you may have negative average Input and/or Output values.
(3) The trick for capturing lead-out Energy is to remain in
high COP range or in negative value range.
The same or similar experiment have been done in Hong Kong a few times. The plan is to have the oscilloscope-test-ready boards for at least 30 Universities. There are some Company Politics issues to be resolved and those boards are on-hold. However, the information to benefit the World will not be slowed down. The Boards may not be shipped out. But the information is provided here as a Christmas Gift to the World.
Please do post your findings openly in this thread.
*** Edited to include correct diagram for a two oscilloscope set up.
The Christmas Gift is to benefit the Human Race - not to make a few people wealthy.
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